My Note –
The health care reform debate so far has been like having the makers of nuclear bombs at the table for disarmament talks – for understandable reasons – they will do all they can to undermine the success of those talks.
With the health care industry more dangerous than heart disease and cancer put together in the number of preventable deaths that are a direct result of their misogyny, incompetence, barbaric practices, profiteering, and mishandling of knowledge and expertise, who needs an enemy?
When we have beheld a common enemy, the citizens of the United States have joined to problem solve and correct the most intolerable and inhumane situations that have been instigated by the powerful, the corrupt, the overbearing, the perverse, the tyrannical, the unconscionable, and by those who would profiteer at the exceptional expense of all. We have stopped them. We have meted out justice to them and we have corrected their twisted concepts of how the world works.
When are we going to do that for these conservative right-wing corporate monstrosities that have been running our country and our lives into the ground for over a quarter of a century at the hands of their perverted reasoning and immoral application of the universal principles founding our nation?
While deeming themselves qualified to judge every last element of American life from sexuality and normalcy to acceptable uses of time and daylight and money, based on some picture show from the 1930’s glamorized by Hollywood’s elite, these monsters of the business community, right-wing politics, Christian fundamentalism, conservative Republican re-interpreters of freedom and democracy have managed to destroy just about everything they touched.
And so it goes and they still want more and more and more and more and more. When did they ever consider that they were above washing their own dishes and wiping their own asses or that they had the right to use all the resources we have put into our collective good as their own private party slush funds to serve them and no one else?
They certainly don’t mind the word socialism when it comes to covering the business losses from their extreme gambling addictions gone bad in the stock market, in bad corporate decisions to leverage against every last dollar or dime the corporation might make over the next twenty years or on the level of any number of other stupid financial gambling practices. Then, its our money to the rescue and not one Republican nor conservative excuse for a human being says that they shouldn’t be doing that with the taxpayers money more than a weak and playful, “oh, don’t do that . . . “ in the way a little kid would say it with a smirk on their face and a twinkle in their eyes.
That private party group of conservatives and right-wing business leadership needs a deluxe room out of town without a cellphone or a computer and no access to taxpayers money for awhile where they can re-evaluate their views of reality without anybody telling them what to think or how to think about it or what it means. And, that’s the truth.
– cricketdiane, 08-14-09
[and to repeat from my last post – ]
Excuse me but, the health industry as we currently have it – has killed more people and maimed more people than the devil himself.
The refusal to find a way to offer reasonable costs for health care has resulted in more inhumane cruelties than many wars that have been fought.
Health care, good care, good health and quality of life research wasn’t paid for by a few Christian fundamentalists or conservative talk show hosts or Republican business people – We, as American taxpayers covered the costs of that research, those breakthroughs, and that knowledge.
When did we decide that access to those tax funded benefits to society belonged only to a meager few who deemed themselves and their families more worthy of that care than the rest of us?
[And from the article in the Guardian UK which started my look at the ideas]
‘Evil and Orwellian’ – America’s right turns its fire on NHS
• Datablog: How does the NHS compare to US healthcare?
, Tuesday 11 August 2009 21.00 BST
Andrew Clark in New York
The National Health Service has become the butt of increasingly outlandish political attacks in the US as Republicans and conservative campaigners rail against Britain’s “socialist” system as part of a tussle to defeat Barack Obama’s proposals for broader government involvement in healthcare.
[ . . . ]
Slickly produced television advertisements trumpet the alleged failures of the NHS’s 61-year tradition of tax-funded healthcare. To the dismay of British healthcare professionals, US critics have accused the service of putting an “Orwellian” financial cap on the value on human life, of allowing elderly people to die untreated and, in one case, for driving a despairing dental patient to mend his teeth with superglue.
[ . . . ]
The degree of misinformation is causing dismay in NHS circles. Andrew Dillon, chief executive of the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), pointed out that it was utterly false that Kennedy would be left untreated in Britain: “It is neither true nor is it anything you could extrapolate from anything we’ve ever recommended to the NHS.”
Others in the US have accused Obama of trying to set up “death panels” to decide who should live and who should die, along the lines of Nice, which determines the cost-effectiveness of NHS drugs.
One right-leaning group, Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, lists horror stories about British care on its website. An email widely circulated among US voters, of uncertain origin, claims that anyone over 59 in Britain is ineligible for treatment for heart disease.
A $1.2m television advertising campaign bankrolled by the conservative Club for Growth displays images of the union flag and Big Ben while intoning a figure of $22,750. A voiceover says: “In England, government health officials have decided that’s how much six months of life is worth. If a medical treatment costs more, you’re out of luck.”
The number is based on a ratio of £30,000 a year used by Nice in its assessment of whether drugs provide value for money. Dillon said this was one of many variables in determining cost-effectiveness of medicines. He said of his body’s portrayal in the US: “It’s very disappointing and it’s not, obviously, the way in which Nice describes itself or the way in which we’re perceived in the UK even among those who are disappointed or upset by our decisions.”
The broader tone of the US healthcare debate has become increasingly bitter. The former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin last week described president Obama’s proposals as “evil”, while the radio presenter Rush Limbaugh has compared a logo used for the White House’s reform plans to a Nazi swastika. Hecklers have disrupted town hall meetings called to discuss the health reform plans.
[ . . . ]
Defenders of Britain’s system point out that the UK spends less per head on healthcare but has a higher life expectancy than the US. The World Health Organisation ranks Britain’s healthcare as 18th in the world, while the US is in 37th place. The British Medical Association said a majority of Britain’s doctors have consistently supported public provision of healthcare. A spokeswoman said the association’s 140,000 members were skeptical about the US approach to medicine: “Doctors and the public here are appalled that there are so many people on the US who don’t have proper access to healthcare. It’s something we would find very, very shocking.”
Now there are 923 comments – the first 715 included many personal stories of how people in the UK have experienced their health care system and some comments of people who have a range of experience with both the US, Canadian and UK systems of health care.
It is well worth reading through at least the numerous comments that reflect those experiences to know about it instead of repeating whatever came in some anonymous email rounded through fifty “forwarded to” addresses from who knows where . . .
– my note
My point is this –
Where people are actually discussing and relating their experiences with the health care system in the UK that is known to be socialized medical care, it is upfront about its frame of reference and where it has originated. These experiences can be considered as we work to change what is plainly broken in our health care system. Maybe some parts of these international systems can be used to make our decisions about what we want to have available to our nation and to every citizen in the way of health care and medical costs.
At least we could take an intelligent look at some of what works and what doesn’t – I mean, really – what do we want to live with for the near future as well as fifty years from now? Just remember that whatever is done will be undone before anyone can derive any benefit from it – that is how American politics of aristocratic right-wing business interests works. They claim it is free market capitalism, but in fact it isn’t because it excludes any and all from competing with them on a level playing field. That is just as they want it. And they will remake it into that at every turn, no matter what changes.
– cricketdiane, Cricket House Studios, 2009
Since socialized medical systems are kicking our butts in offering quality of care at a reasonable cost, it doesn’t mean that socialized medicine is the only way to do that. It does mean that we need to improve what we are doing to a huge extent. And that is a fact.
In rushing health-care reform, Obama has pushed democracy to the side – National Review Online – August 12
In the last few weeks, the debate over health care has taken an angry and contentious turn by any standard. Town-hall meetings and public rallies, not known for their docile tenor under normal circumstances, have been punctuated by unusually spirited opposition to Democrat proposals for sweeping reform. What began as a few isolated outbursts of […]
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Our radio programming from August 8 is now posted at the link below. Guests include Caryl Matrisciana with her new film emphasizing Islamic infiltration into government and other high places. This is a silent jihad. Also, Jack Alnor cautions about some of today’s televangelists who are “fleecing” Christianity. Hear the disturbing sound bytes:
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States Cut Aid to College Students as Demand Booms
Struggling with budget shortfalls that reach into the billions, several states are making deep cuts in college financial aid programs, including those that provide a vital source of cash for students who most need the money.
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The White House deal with Big Pharma undermines democracy
Aug. 10, 2009 | I’m a strong supporter of universal health insurance, and a fan of the Obama administration. But I’m appalled by the deal the White House has made with the pharmaceutical industry’s lobbying arm to buy their support.Last week, after bei…
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[And from the fact that the above Berean Bible Ministries site is one of many who are repeating the things from here – ]
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* Is There a Right to Healthcare?
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Is There a Right to Healthcare?
Sorting out a complex issue
By Father Thomas Berg
August 11, 2009
9:00 am EST
In a provocative op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal in late July, Theodore Dalrymple (the pen name of British physician Anthony Daniels) argued that there simply is no such thing as a fundamental right to healthcare. “Where does the right to health care come from?” asked Dalrymple. “Did it exist in, say, 250 B.C., or in A.D. 1750? If it did, how was it that our ancestors, who were no less intelligent than we, failed completely to notice it?”
My Note – so I went and read what he had to say – which included this –
“So what about a fundamental human right to adequate healthcare? On that count, the U.S. Catholic bishops have been firm believers for decades. In a 1993 resolution on health care reform titled “A Framework for Comprehensive Health Care Reform” the bishops wrote:”
“Our approach to health care is shaped by a simple but fundamental principle: every person has a right to adequate health care. This right flows from the sanctity of human life and the dignity that belongs to all human persons, who are made in the image of God.”
The statement goes on to explain that the existence of this right was already affirmed in Pope John XXIII’s 1963 encyclical Pacem in Terris which reads:
Man has the right to live. He has the right to bodily integrity and to the means necessary for the proper development of life, particularly food, clothing, shelter, medical care, rest, and, finally, the necessary social services. In consequence, he has the right to be looked after in the event of ill-health… (n.11).
My Note –
But then, Father whatever used these statements to decry and denounce any “fundamental right to health care” in a twisted and perverse intellectual argument which is exactly the opposite of what these authorities said.
And then, I watched on CNN last night as Lou Dobbs repeated the same bull about there being no fundamental right to health care as if that were some basic sensible, moral Christian principle. Did he even check where any of that nonsense had been influenced or had originated and why those people would believe that way? – cricketdiane
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“Theodore Dalrymple (the pen name of British physician Anthony Daniels)”
Anthony Daniels (psychiatrist)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anthony (A.M.) Daniels (born 1949) is a British writer and retired physician (prison doctor and psychiatrist), who generally uses the pen name Theodore Dalrymple. He has also used the pen name Edward Theberton and two other pen names. Before his retirement in 2005 he worked as a doctor and psychiatrist in a hospital and nearby prison in a slum area in Birmingham. His philosophical position is compassionate conservative . He is a critic of liberal thinking and utopian thinking in general.
Daniels has revealed in his writing that his father was a Communist businessman, while his Jewish mother was born in Germany and came to the United Kingdom as a refugee from the Nazi regime.
“Daniels does not baulk at the use of the concept of evil. Numerous articles of his have evil in the title.” – found below
In 2005 he retired from England to move (with his wife) to France, where he plans to continue writing. His columns frequently appear in The Spectator as well as in City Journal, a magazine published by the Manhattan Institute.
He has worked in Zimbabwe (then known as Rhodesia), Tanzania, South Africa, Kiribati, the east end of London and central Birmingham (UK), amongst other places.
Regarding his pseudonym Theodore Dalrymple, Daniels says he chose a name that sounded suitably dyspeptic, that of a gouty old man looking out of the window of his London club, port in hand, lamenting the degenerating state of the world. 
Daniels has written extensively on culture, art, politics, education and medicine drawing upon his experience as a doctor and psychiatrist in Zimbabwe and Tanzania, and more recently at a prison and a public hospital in Birmingham, in central England. He has travelled to many countries in Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, and elsewhere.
In his commentary, Daniels frequently argues that the so-called progressive views prevalent within Western intellectual circles minimize the responsibility of individuals for their own actions and undermine traditional mores, contributing to the formation within rich countries of an underclass afflicted by endemic violence, criminality, sexually transmitted diseases, welfare dependency, and drug abuse.
He contends that the middle class abandonment of traditional cultural and behavioural aspirations has, by example, fostered routine incivility and ignorance among the poor. Although he is occasionally accused of being a pessimist and misanthrope, his defenders praise his persistently conservative philosophy, which they describe as being anti-ideological, sceptical, rational and empiricist.
Daniels’ writing has some recurring themes.
* The cause of much contemporary misery in Western countries – criminality, domestic violence, drug addiction, aggressive youths, hooliganism, broken families – is the nihilistic, decadent and/or self-destructive behaviour of people who do not know how to live. Both the smoothing over of this behaviour, and the medicalization of the problems that emerge as a corollary of this behaviour, are forms of indifference. Someone has to tell those people, patiently and with understanding for the particulars of the case, that they have to live differently.
* Poverty does not explain aggressive, criminal and self-destructive behaviour. In an African slum you will find among the very poor, living in dreadful circumstances, dignity and decency in abundance, which are painfully lacking in an average English suburb, although its inhabitants are much wealthier.
* An attitude characterized by ‘gratefulness’ and ‘obligations towards others’ has been replaced, with awful consequences, by an awareness of rights, a sense of entitlement. The result is resentment as, naturally, those rights are violated by parents, authorities, bureaucracies and others in general.
* Technocratic or bureaucratic solutions to the problems of mankind produce disasters in cases where the nature of man is the root cause of those problems.
* One of the things that makes Islam attractive to young westernized Muslim men, is the opportunity it gives them to dominate women.
* It is a myth (its name is: cold turkey) that withdrawal symptoms of an opiate addiction (i.e. heroin) are virtually unbearable. It is hardly worse than flu.
* Criminality is much more often the cause of drug addiction than its consequence.
* The ideology of the welfare state is used to diminish personal responsibility. Erosion of personal responsibility makes people dependent on institutions and favours the existence of a threatening and vulnerable underclass.
* Moral relativism can easily be a trick of an egotistical mind to silence the voice of conscience.
* Multiculturalism and cultural relativism are at odds with common sense and statistical evidence.
* The decline of civilised behaviour, such as: self-restraint, modesty, zeal, humility, irony, detachment, is a disaster for social and personal life.
* The root cause of our contemporary cultural poverty is intellectual dishonesty. First, the intellectuals have destroyed the foundation of culture, and second, they refuse to acknowledge it by resorting to the caves of political correctness.
* Beyond and above all other nations in the world, Britain is the place where all the evils summarized above are most clearly manifest.
1. ^ Website Skeptical Doctor. For an example of an article written by Edward Theberton, see: Black Marx (The Spectator, 5 juli 1986). The characteristic opening sentence of the article reads: If the people of Mozambique could eat slogans, they would be fat.
2. ^ a b Theodore Dalrymple. Where nobody knows your name. (Globe and Mail, Feb. 16, 2008).
3. ^ Profile published in the New York Sun, 2004.
4. ^ It was not a happy marriage; Daniels characterised his parents as having chose[n] to live in the most abject conflictual misery and created for themselves a kind of Hell on a small domestic scale . In his essay ‘What we have to lose’, in: Our Culture What’s Left of It, p. 158, Anthony Daniels wrote: (…) my mother was a refugee from Nazi Germany (…) She had left Germany when she was seventeen (…) .
5. ^ A good number of Daniels’ themes are discussed in the interview by Paul Belien with Daniels: ‘Dalrymple on Decadence, Europe, America and Islam’, in: The Brussels Journal, the Voice of Conservatism in Europe, 17 September 2006.
6. ^ Life at the bottom. The Worldview that makes the Underclass (passim).
7. ^ What is Poverty, City Journal, spring 1999.
8. ^ ‘The Law of Conservation of Righteous Indignation, and its Connection to the Expansion of Human Rights’, in: In Praise of Prejudice. The Necessity of Preconceived Ideas, p. 68 (chapter 17).
9. ^ When Islam Breaks Down, City Journal, Spring 2004.
10. ^ Cold turkey is no worse than flu New Statesman, 09 April 1999. See also: Romancing Opiates (passim).
11. ^ Addicted to lies: junking heroin is no worse than flu.
12. ^ ‘The Uses of Metaphysical Skepticism’, in: In Praise of Prejudice. The Necessity of Preconceived Ideas, p. 6 (chapter 2).
13. ^ Multiculturalism Starts Losing its Luster, City Journal, summer 2004.
14. ^ All our Pomp of Yesterday, City Journal, summer 1999.
15. ^ Not with a Bang but a Whimper (passim). Daniels does not baulk at the use of the concept of evil. Numerous articles of his have evil in the title.
* Coups and Cocaine: Two Journeys in South America (1986)
* Fool or Physician: The Memoirs of a Sceptical Doctor (1987)
* Zanzibar to Timbuktu (1988)
* Sweet Waist of America: Journeys around Guatemala (1990)
* The Wilder Shores of Marx: Journeys in a Vanishing World (1991) (published in the U.S. as Utopias Elsewhere)
* Monrovia Mon Amour: A Visit to Liberia (1992)
* If Symptoms Persist: Anecdotes from a Doctor (1994)
* So Little Done: The Testament of a Serial Killer (1996)
* If Symptoms Still Persist (1996)
* Mass Listeria: The Meaning of Health Scares (1998)
* An Intelligent Person’s Guide to Medicine (2001)
* Life at the Bottom: The Worldview That Makes the Underclass (2001) ISBN 1566633826
* Violence, Disorder and Incivility in British Hospitals: The Case for Zero Tolerance (2002) ISBN 0907631975
* Our Culture, What’s Left of It: The Mandarins and the Masses (2005) ISBN 1566636434
* Romancing Opiates: Pharmacological Lies And The Addiction Bureaucracy (2006) ISBN 1594030871 (published in the U.K. as Junk Medicine: Doctors, Lies and the Addiction Bureaucracy ISBN 1905641591)
* Making Bad Decisions. About the Way we Think of Social Problems (2006) (Dr. J. Tans Lecture 2006; published by Studium Generale Maastricht, The Netherlands. Lecture read on Wednesday 15 November 2006. ISBN 9789078769019)
* In Praise of Prejudice: The Necessity of Preconceived Ideas (2007) ISBN 1594032025
* Not With a Bang But a Whimper: The Politics and Culture of Decline (2008) ISBN 1566637953
* Second Opinion. A Doctor’s Notes from the Inner City (2009) ISBN 9781906308124
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