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The same article above describes this too –

The water authority’s entrance into the discussion, though, has changed the dialogue. The agency wants to pump tens of thousands of acre-feet of water each year from rural Nevada basins. Most rural Nevadans, including many in areas that depend on cloud seeding, oppose that prospect.

The Bureau of Land Management is expecting to complete its draft environmental impact statement on the pipeline in early 2010, but construction isn’t likely to begin for several years.

The project faces mounting opposition from ranchers, farmers, environmentalists, American Indians and national parks enthusiasts who say it will suck dry some of the most beautiful country in the state and ruin the lives of local residents.

The authority has acquired water rights in four of the five basins from which it wants water. In Spring Valley, it had to purchase and operate large ranches to get the water it wanted. And it has made deals with Lincoln County to exchange 3,000 acre-feet of water each year for support for its water rights applications there. The agency recently agreed, as part of a water basin agreement between Nevada and Utah, to wait 10 years before pursuing the water rights it applied for in a final basin, Snake Valley.

Pipeline opponents see the cloud-seeding proposition as yet another way the water authority is trying to manipulate rural Nevadans into supporting the pipeline. For them and other pipeline foes, it serves as another “ah ha” moment.

“It appears that the SNWA is acknowledging that there just isn’t enough water in the basins they have targeted, at least if they are going to avoid widespread defoliation and environmental destruction,” said Launce Rake, spokesman for the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada.

Read more about the Las Vegas Water Grab in the Las Vegas Sun here.



My Note –

Another Bureau of Land Management, Department of the Interior disaster in progress. Where did they get the people in the Bureau of Land Management – from the bowels of hell somewhere serving the wrong master or what? Can they not see the problems with the environment that they are creating with all these things? Doesn’t anybody have anything to say that these people can hear that aren’t dressed in $3,000 suits and a Rolex? Maybe they are part of the problems that have been increasing the desertification in the US across the last thirty years. They’ve been doing it since the 1970’s from what the article says. I’m sure its only one possible contributing factor – however, why didn’t that bunch doing that several times a month cloud seeding in those mountains have to answer to a bigger picture meteorological government group of any kind? How is it that any state can just do that to suit themselves without any overall consideration for the impacts it would have elsewhere?

And this below – which is another bunch of junk by the Bureau of Land Management and the Minerals Management Service agency that is a part of them –

– cricketdiane (my note)


  1. Minerals Management ServiceGulf of Mexico Region Homepage

    NEW ORLEANS – Central Gulf of Mexico Oil and Gas Lease Sale 213, Minerals Management Service (MMS) announced the release of the Gulf of Mexico Oil and

    Lease Information 

    Gulf of Mexico Region Lease Map (as of May 18, 2010) OCS Study MMS 2001





    More results from gomr.mms.gov »

  2. MMS was troubled long before oil spill – CNN.com

    May 27, 2010 Gulf Coast Oil Spill · Minerals Management Service …. group finds · Gulf of Mexico oil spill called worst in U.S. history

Offshore Energy and Minerals Management (OEMM) Program Home Page

May 21, 2010 The MMS is working with the U.S. Coast Guard and the operator of the BP’s Gulf of Mexico Regional Oil Spill Response Plan ( 62 KB PDF)
(and this – )
About Centralia, Pennsylvania and the fire that won’t go out underground –

Blackest Night; Lo, light!
Amaranthine Anthracite
burns forevermore.

Since the dead of winter is the “best” time to visit Centralia, I thought now a good point to post a review. Some perhaps are already familiar with it due to Bill Bryson’s evocative description of the abandoned hamlet in “A Walk in The Woods”, some perhaps have heard of it as it was an inspiration for an awful excuse for a horror movie, “Silent Hill”…

The ghosts that haunt this town are naught but billows of smoke & steam issuing forth from the earth, wispy evidence of the fire that rages underneath the surface in the veins of anthracite coal that have made many a Pennsylvania borough prosperous. Tragically, the same coal that made Centralia a conservatively booming mining town became its downfall due to this inextinguishable fire which crept its way into the deposits after a unsuccessful attempt at putting out a fire in the town dump back in ’60s. It shows no sign of stopping, decades after it’s start, and the danger involved has chased away all but a handful of people who refuse to leave ye ole homestead.

Why visit? Well, it’s truly an experience to be surrounded by shrouds of smoke (much more visible in the bracing air of winter, hence my posting now)…to have your olfactory senses assaulted by an acrid sulphurous smell, gawk at the spidery cracks in the asphalted roads leading up to the town…press your bare hand to the hardened soil and feel the almost nauseating warmth…and look from a distance upon the fortified houses that still stand.

I honestly haven’t a clue if it bothers those few souls who remain, seeing curious people scrambling all over their once-happy town…so I try to keep a distance from the houses and be as inconspicuous as possible. You can judge from this review and the others here if a stop would be worth your while but for me, the very palpable and ineffable feeling that hangs heavy as I extend my fingers in wonder into a furl of smoke is enough to bring me back on occasion, especially if I’m passing through.



Familiar with the “Silent Hill” video game? Consider visiting Centralia. After all, it’s pure desolation, the remnants of infrastructure in coal country: house-less driveways complete with mailboxes, lonely fire hydrants, and smoke swirling about graveyards.

Beer bottles and discarded condoms are proof folks still stop by, but it’s dangerous. Feel that warmth? That’s the town’s famous mine fire, practically the fires of Hell, that has been burning for years. (It’s supposed to stop burning in about 250 years.)

Pondering how easy I could’ve died here – it’s an easy feat to fall through the unstable earth or inhale toxic fumes – I’m lucky I didn’t, and I have no plans to return anytime soon.


And today and yesterday – as I’ve watched the Toxic America show on CNN – I look at Elizabeth Whelan who says there are no dangerous chemicals and yesterday’s who done it of the chemical industry representatives from Lake something or nother saying there wasn’t any chemicals from their plants making people sick and the Vinyl trade association saying there is no danger – these three people should be put in a room filled with benzene and then let us know if they find any illness from it once they have spent two days in there. Especially Ms. Whelan who sets public policy – and believes and speaks for all chemicals not having any dangers despite whatever science may say about it.

As I watched Elizabeth Whelan who looks like a bizarre twelve year old female child stuck on an old woman’s body and watched the Mr. Larry DeRoussel  of the Lake Area Industry Alliance with his flat expressionless poker face death mask and I’ve thought it isn’t fair that when they showed us pictures of what the devil looked like and his legions of demons – that nobody said they would look like those two people or any of the countless others like them who facilitate industries making people’s lives a living hell and destroying their communities and creating horrible suffering and premature deaths for tens of thousands of people.

And, those people including Whelan, DeRoussel and the people at the Minerals Management Service and Chemical Industries and Petroleum Industries and their lobbyists have been intentionally refocusing attention on some things of far less danger than the dioxins and other chemical cancers on mankind that are now – directly because of them – in lethal combinations and lethal concentrations damn near everywhere in the United States. There is no county untouched by it, no place safe from it and no chemistry work being done figuring out how to fix it – because they and others like them have been standing in the way of defining it as a problem in the first place.

And, I thought about some of the superfund cleanup sites that I’ve seen and read about – including the sodium reactor facility that had a meltdown near where my family almost bought a house in California – the facility is called the Santa Susana Field Laboratory (or facility) – it housed a sodium reactor and other experimental nuclear goodies. The state of California didn’t want to deal with further cleanup and decided to make it into a glow-in-the-dark tourist spot for day hikers, picnickers and provide walking trails over the contaminated landscape and near the continuing superfund qualified toxic dump site with hazardous materials, soils, contaminated water – and other nasty things.



Santa Susana Field Laboratory administrative areas and surrounding communities.

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Oct 13, 2009 Facility Areas and Communities around Santa Susana Field Laboratory. Figure 2. Area II rocket test stands and surrounding terrain.

Energy Technology Engineering Center, Santa Susana Field Lab

A nuclear energy R&D facility owned by the Department of Energy, and operated by Rocketdyne/Boeing, involved in applying nuclear technologies related to



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it is located near to, and below, the Santa Susana Field Laboratory ((SFL), a nuclear reactor and rocket testing and development facility with significant


RIGZONE – MCS Has Solution to Meet Tougher MMS Regulations in GOM

May 6, 2009 MCS will ensure that oil and gas operators are able to comply with new, tougher Minerals Management Service (MMS) regulations 30 CFR 250 in