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“He’s been a good man, he’s been a good friend and ally of the United States,” Mr. Cheney said. “We need to remember that.”
more by Vice President Dick Cheney – 16 hours ago – New York Times (blog)

Cheney: Remember that Mubarak has been ‘a good man, a good friend and ally’

The Hill (blog) – Bridget Johnson – ‎20 hours ago
Former Vice President Dick Cheney called embattled Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak a “good friend and ally,” and

Cheney on Egypt: Mubarak is US friend, ‘and we need to remember that’

Washington Examiner (blog) – Byron York – ‎Feb 6, 2011‎
Former Vice President Dick Cheney says Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak is a “good man” who has been “a good friend and ally of the United States. …

My Note –
Well, Mr. Cheney and your Republican friends – this is what your friend did to one of many, many, many Egyptian people. That makes Mr. Mubarak something other than a “good man.” By all that we know in the world and its history, “good men” do not do this – (no wonder the Bush administrations were screwing up so many things – they believed that evil was good and good was evil. I’d say that was wrong and it does explain a lot.)

Egyptian 28 year old Khalid Said before

Egyptian 28 year old Khaled Said before

Egyptian Khalid Said after being tortured to death by Egyptian authorities

Egyptian Khaled Said after being tortured to death by Egyptian authorities

Khaled Said after his torture to death

Eye witnesses include the Internet Cafe owner who saw the two Policemen arresting Khaled, the residential building keeper (guard/bawab) & his wife, a pharmacist who tried to intervene and stop the torture, a teenager who watched the policemen while they were hitting him in the building entrance and many by standers. Fully documented video interviews with eye witnesses are available on this post hereon our website (witness accounts are all in Arabic). Many more videos of eye witnesses are posted on youtube.

(from)

http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk/home-khaled-said-full-story-background-truth-what-happened-torture-in-egypt-by-egyptian-police/

Mubarak's Life 2010

Mubarak's Life 2010

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38948469/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/

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from Egypt – authorities treat convicted police officer that savagely brutalized an innocent citizen to his job and rank back –

Nabih is a policeman who was convicted and jailed for 3 years for torturing and sexual torture of an innocent citizen. The day after spending his jail term, the minister of internal affairs, has re-instated the policeman back and he kept his rank and position as if nothing has happened.

Aug.12, 2010 in Egypt, Torture Victims
http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk/2010/08/12/policeman-convicted-by-courts-of-torture-and-sexual-torture-of-innocent-victim-has-been-re-instated-as-a-policeman-the-day-after-coming-out-of-jail/ 

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Photo of Mubarak and Reagan as they celebrate at the White House
http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/U2074502.html

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(found on CNN – International)

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US Leaders in Hero worship of Mubarak 1982 hang on every word

US Leaders in Hero worship of Mubarak 1982 hang on every word

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from September 2010 – Washington Post article –

A Senate resolution condemning Egypt’s record on human rights and free elections has sparked an aggressive Washington lobbying campaign by the longtime U.S. ally, which argues that the measure could harm the Middle East peace process and its relationship with the United States.

Egypt is one of the leading recipients of U.S. foreign aid, receiving about $1.5 billion last year. The country has accelerated its lobbying spending in Washington from $214,000 in 2006 to $1.5 million last year, according to disclosure records filed with the Justice Department.
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 8, 2010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/08/AR2010090806536.html?sid=ST2010090807548

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President Ford meets with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield April 22, 1975 - from NY Times article 2006

President Ford meets with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield April 22, 1975 - from NY Times article 2006

from the NY Times article – (2006) –

Ringside seats for this constitutional combat went to Mr. Rumsfeld, a former Illinois congressman whom Mr. Ford chose as chief of staff in 1974 at age 42, and Mr. Cheney, a former political science graduate student who served as his deputy. When Mr. Rumsfeld was named defense secretary the next year, Mr. Cheney, just 34, took the top White House job.

“Ford treated Cheney and Rumsfeld in effect as his students, eager young men willing to learn the art of government at his side,” Mr. Greene said.

Just days after arriving at the White House, those pupils saw Mr. Ford suffer an important defeat. At the urging of a Justice Department official named Antonin Scalia, who would later join the Supreme Court, Mr. Ford vetoed the Freedom of Information Act amendments, which he believed infringed the secrecy of the intelligence agencies and the F.B.I.

Newspaper editorials denounced what they said was a violation of Mr. Ford’s pronounced policy of openness. A defiant Congress overrode the veto, by a vote of 371 to 31 in the House and 65 to 27 in the Senate.

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from 2008 – President Bush –

“I appreciate very much the long and proud tradition that you’ve had for a vibrant civil society.” said to Mubarak at Sharm al-Sheikh

“I also talked about Egypt’s role in the world. Egypt is an important nation — that sends a clear signal. People watch Egypt. I appreciate very much the long and proud tradition that you’ve had for a vibrant civil society.“”But I’m absolutely confident the people of the Middle East are working hard to build a society based upon justice.”

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/01/20080116-2.html

Egyptian Khaled Said after being tortured to death by Egyptian authorities

Mubarak secret police torture Egyptians

2008 - President Bush and Mubarak pat each other on the back for making life better for all Egyptians, Americans and the Middle East - from White House archives

2008 - President Bush and Mubarak pat each other on the back for making life better for all Egyptians, Americans and the Middle East - from White House archives

(from)

http://www.elshaheeed.co.uk/home-khaled-said-full-story-background-truth-what-happened-torture-in-egypt-by-egyptian-police/

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Is America a Sick Country or What?

By Dave Lindorff
The Public Record
Aug 24th, 2009

cuffed_detainee

“You see, here’s the thing. When you hear about the sick, twisted things that America’s torturers have been doing, courtesy of President George W. Bush and Vice President Darth Cheney, you have to remember that the U.S. military and the CIA were not really all that reliable when it came to picking up the real terrorists. In fact, their batting average was pretty lousy.”

(from)

http://pubrecord.org/commentary/3987/america-sick-country-what/

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Happy, Hayy in the Sunshine - Happy Campers with not a care in the world

from a conservative blog –


Unfortunately, the Geneva and UN Conventions are as vague as a local noise ordinance about what is torture.  The following is the definition from Geneva, which you will notice lists no interrogation techniques – not water boarding or putting a caterpillar in a terrorists’ cell to scare him:

(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

(b) Taking of hostages;

(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;

(d) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

(By the way the above applies to “High Contracting Parties” to the Geneva Conventions, which al-Qaeda is not). [but the US is, my note.]

Here is how the UN defines torture:

“…the term “torture” means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.”

(By the way, al-Qaeda is not a member of the UN, so they won’t follow the Convention). [my note – but, the US is a member.]

Neither Convention lists water boarding or any other interrogation technique.  However, Geneva makes “degrading” treatment torture and the UN says “intimidation” is torture.

That means a jury can, like Democrats did, say that “torture!” can be as little as calling someone a name, because it’s “degrading” (you dirty dog) or telling him tomorrow he may be punished, because it’s “intimidation.”

President Bush understood that if our military members, from Generals on down ever found themselves before one of these Courts, they could be convicted of “torture!” even if they didn’t do anything wrong.

If you think that could never happen, consider that Spain, a NATO ally, is trying to indict six members of the Bush Administration and Dick Cheney was indicted by a Court – in Texas. (etc.)

The allegation of “torture!” was never a real issue.  It was a campaign tool for the Democrats.

http://justifiedright.typepad.com/justified_right/2009/05/index.html

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My Note –

I think there were some strange things about some of this.